MacIver News Service | February 19, 2011 12:05pm Updated 2:40pm
[Madison, WI] As tens of thousands of public employees skipped work this week to attend protest rallies outside the Wisconsin State Capitol, many wondered if they would face any disciplinary action for unexcused absences.
On Saturday, a group of men and women in lab coats purporting to be doctors were handing out medical excuse notes, without examining the ‘patients.’
“I asked this doctor what he was doing and he told me they were handing out excuses to people who were feeling sick due to emotional, mental or financial distress,” said Christian Hartsock. “They never performed an exam–he asked me how I was feeling today and I said I’m from California and I’m not used to the cold, so he handed me a note.”
Another woman, who wished to remain anonymous, said they were handing out excuses like they were leaflets.
“I asked if they were handing out doctors’ excuses and a guy said yes and asked me if I needed one,” she said. “When I told them I needed one for February 16 and 17th, he wondered if I wanted to come back here for the protests next week.”
What happened next?
“I said, ‘sure,’ and I received a doctor’s note for the 16th through the 25th of February, without a medical exam.”
The notes read
Feb 19, 2011
Patient’s name______
Date of birth ____/_____/_____
To Whom it May Concern:
This is confirm I have seen and evaluated the above named patient.
Please excuse from work/school due to a medical condition from
____/____/____ through
Please contact me at badgerdoctors@gmail.com if additional information is needed. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Physician Signature:
Physician Name
WI license number
Based on an examination of the signature and medical license number provided, one of the men handing out these notes was purporting to be James H Shropshire MD, a Clinical Associate Professor at the University Wisconsin Madison.
At this time, MacIver News Service is attempting to contact Dr. Shropshire to see if indeed he was the one handing out the notes on the Capitol Square.
I would be happy to take a job there if these folks cannot realize how lucky they are to have a job right now! Good Lord! There are those of us who have been looking diligently for months and these folks can’t see how fortunate they are. They are spoiled and just want it all!
Well money doesn’t grow on trees people, get real.
2/3 of eighth grade students in Wisconsin CANNOT READ at grade level. Seems like a good reason to pay based on performance instead of time on the job. Performance based pay that the Unions seem to be opposed to.
The Unions quite obviously love the fact that Union teachers produce idiots, future Union members.
[...] News Service spotted a group of people in white coats purporting to be physicians agreeing to sign “sick” notes for protesters in seemingly excellent health, thus allowing them to miss work without penalty. One [...]
Well I don’t know how the teachers protesting would manage to survive on the meager paychecks they are given and still manage to do what a true American would do when they see their country’s lawmakers and politicians under-representing an important portion of the working people. They protest! They get out there and speak up for what they believe in. This ‘fraud’ is just some word the callous upper middle uses to separate them self from what was really happening here. Not just some technicality that some people are trying to burocratically pin on these valiant demonstrators! They have families to feed, bills and taxes to pay, and things to buy like everyone else! They are, if anything, more hardworking and serve a higher purpose in our society than the few who are actually lucky enough to have a higher paying position. I’m not saying that some of those with high paying white collar positions didn’t work hard, but it’s obvious that good fortune played a pretty good roll in their success. All I’m saying is be empathetic! Obviously they weren’t sitting at home, abusing the system. They were out being a part of an important union bust that needs every supporter out there that it can!
Chris Reply:
February 27th, 2011 at 4:08 PM
How about us lower middle class people who would LOVE to make what they make at a part time job with absolutely no accountable job standards. Have someone else pay for my ENTIRE retirement and ridiculously generous health benefits. Then complain when the fraud imparted on the taxpayer by the democrats and their union leaders is finally called out. Noble? Really, most people can remember only a handful of passionate, effective teachers of the multitude they’ve encountered in their lifetime. Maybe I should just not expect more from the public sector employees than a demand that everyone pay more out of their paycheck to prevent them from paying more out of theirs. The argument is completely morally and intellectually bankrupt.
[...] governor is mirrored by the dishonesty of striking government employees there, who have engaged in widespread fraud in calling in “sick” to shut down Wisconsin schools. By the thousand, they have [...]
[...] my surprise, then, when on camera and in daylight, doctors in Wisconsin have been writing fraudulent “excuses” for teachers who have been demonstrating at the state capitol over recent moves by the governor and the [...]
Shouldn’t we be waiting for verification before making a judgement? If conservatives are going to win any arguments it can’t be based on lies and made up video. If their side isn’t going to be ethical, then we certainly must – and rushing to judgement without proof isn’t something I will do. Hopefully we’ll know for sure in a few days!
Huck Finn Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:49 PM
So you are accusing the conservatives of lying without any proof.
Didn’t you write, “Shouldn’t we be waiting for verification before making a judgment?”
Where is your verification that the conservatives are lying and posting made up video?
Are you sick of high paid teachers? Teachers’ hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or 10 months a year! It’s time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do – baby sit! We can get that for less than minimum wage.
That’s right. Let’s give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and planning — that equals 6 1/2 hours).
Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children.
Now how many do they teach in day…maybe 30? So that’s $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day. However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.
LET’S SEE…. That’s $585 X 180= $105,300 peryear. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).
Wait a minute — there must be something wrong here!
There sure is!
The average teacher’s salary (nation wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student–a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!)
WHAT A DEAL!!!!
asdfasdf Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:13 PM
republicans are professionals at projecting the problems they create on other people. a coping mechanism for being scum I would imagine.
Huck Finn Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:53 PM
You mean like the republicans that are promoting panic of a government shutdown? Oh wait that’s the democrats.
Hey democrats want to avoid a government shutdown, then follow the will of the people as expressed by the House of Representatives. Prior to Obamacare passing the Senate we were told that since the House of Representatives passed it it was the will of the people.
Well now it is the will of the people to withdraw funds from Obamacare and Planned Parenthood.
asdfasfd Reply:
February 23rd, 2011 at 10:47 PM
no, it’s the will of the republicans.
and all your facts and figures of public sector workers vs. private sector is unfounded.
here, look at this NONPARTISAN look at the real situation of things.
http://www.epi.org/analysis_and_opinion/entry/public_sector_workers_earn_less/
there are more democrats statistically in the united states anyway. so if you really wanted to get into this will of the people bullshit, we outnumber you.
Huck Finn Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 11:08 AM
@asdfasfd
You may want to take a course on the Constitution. The House of Representatives are tasked with representing the will of the people.
The people elected a majority of Republicans to the House of Representatives ergo anything that passes the House of Representatives is the will of the people.
We won democrats lost deal with it.
Revoke the license of a physician that perpetrates fraud.
Isn’t it ironic, that these protests occurred on a taxpayer-funded holiday?
[...] Fake Doctors’ Notes Being Handed Out at Wisconsin Gov. Union Rally [...]
[...] [...]
[...] On Saturday, MacIver News broke the story of a group of men and women in lab coats purporting to be doctors were handing out medical excuse notes, without examining the ‘patients.’ Since the story broke, several doctors, including some affiliated with UW Health, have admitted in the press that they participated in the scheme. [...]
If it says “Union Made” it does not say “Made in China”! The biggest fraud in America is Fox News!
Huck Finn Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:45 PM
Actually the biggest fraud in America is the SEIU sponsored Obama administration. Government of the unions, by the unions and for the unions.
It is time that we as a nation kick the unions to the curb and pay an honest days wage for an honest days work, instead of paying incompetent, lying teachers to drag down the overall intelligence level of this nation.
Fraud on the government is a much broader legal term than fraudulent billing. Fraud on the government includes wrongful acts done with the intent to aid someone else’s fraudulent claim.
Persons who agree to act in concert to commit a wrongful act (fraudulent sick leave claim) form a civil conspiracy, which here is fraud on the government.
Posters indicate that Wisconsin has a “qui tam” statute allowing taxpayer suits to sue persons making fraudulent claims against the State of Wisconsin. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qui_tam
This means that any citizen of Wisconsin can file a class action against the teachers making fraudulent sick leave claims, and against the physicians who wrote their sick leave excuses.
The physicians involved who did not make contemporaneous written records of their examinations of the teachers they wrote sick leave excuses for will have a very difficult time escaping a finding of liability here.
And all conspirators are liable for the acts of each other member of the conspiracy, i.e., the physicians found liable as civil conspirators with the teachers making false claims, would (each separately) be liable for the ENTIRE amount of wrongful sick leave payments made by the State of Wisconsin to the striking teachers
My major point, however, is that it might not be necessary for any official Wisconsin state entity, other than a civil trial court, to do anything to wreck the medical careers of these physicians. Lawyers, judges and juries can do it without any official medical being involved.
Here is how that works. A trial court finding that a physician is civilly liable for fraud on the government might (I’m not familiar with Wisconsin law) be useable as a sort of presumption (the legal term is collateral estoppel) by the Wisconsin Department of Health Services to the same effect – the doctor made a fraudulent claim which disqualifies him/her from receiving MedicAid payments.
If this is indeed so, Wisconsin taxpayers could als bring qui tam suits to recover any future MedicAid payments to the physicians fourd liable for fraud on the government.
Wisconsin’s Doctors Handing Out Fake Sick Notes to Teacher Union Protester. This is Public Tax Fraud in a state that is on the verge of bankruptcy.
If you agree and want something done about it, go to the Wisconsin Department of Medical Regulations. The instructions are as follow: type “Wisconsin Board of Regulation and Licensing” in google, and go to drl.wi.gov. Click the “complaints” tab on the left, and then click “Instructions for Filing a Complaint.”
Wisconsin Medical Examining Board
Department of Regulation and Licensing
Tom H. Ryan, MPA, JD, Bureau Director
(608) 266-2112 / Fax:(608) 261-7083
Complaints Toll Free: (877) 617-1565
John B. Van Hollen, Wisconsin Attorney General
Wisconsin Department of Justice 608-266-1221
P.O. Box 7857
Madison, WI 53707-7857
Fax: 608-267-2779
Here’s a list of the names:
Dr. Louis Sanner
Northeast Family Medical Center – 3209 Dryden Drive — Madison, WI, 53704 — (608) 241-9020
Dr. James H Shropshire MD –5001 Monona Drive–Monona, WI, 53716-2636 – (608)222-8779
Bernard F. Micke, MD
UW Health Odana Clinic — 5618 Odana Road –Madison, WI, 53719 – (608) 274-1100
Hanna Keevil, M.D. UW Health Odana Clinic — 5618 Odana Road — Madison, WI, 53719 – (608) 274-1100
Job title: Clinical Assistant Professor
Email: holly.keevil@uwmf.wisc.edu
First break the Unions then lower everyone wages. Solidarity is needed now!!! All Public employees should not report to work. Shut down the state.
but Obviously these fine doctors were upholding their Hypocritic oath.
Ever wonder why medical insuraqnce is so high? these doctors will lie about your diagnosis and bill the insurance companies I’d certainly trust doctors who have no morals or ethics. This gives every doctor in Wisconsin a bad name
Obviously these fine doctors were upholding their Hypocritic oath.
Ever wonder why medical insuraqnce is so high? these doctors will lie about your diagnosis and bill the insurance companies I’d certainly trust doctors who have no morals or ethics. This gives every doctor in Wisconsin a bad name
These doctors should be brought up on fraud charges, and these teachers should be fired.
Then we need to ban ALL government sector unions.
Do what President Ronald Reagan did–fire them now, and hire some people who really want to work to replace them.
Send the police or the National Guard out to find the Senators.
I dont think real doctors would to this they have too much to lose and are smarter than this.
Ed Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 9:38 PM
Liberalism is definitely a mental disorder! I want to believe that you are correct but there are those incompetent doctors out there that will do things like this as well. I believe they are probably on the AFLCIO’s payroll.
Are you able to provide the names of the doctors who are committing these violations so that we can file complaints with the medical board?
If Walker had given them more than 3 days to protest, they could have used a personal day. He did not. If it weren’t for the Democrat Senators leaving the state, this would have been voted on and the unions would have been illegal. The teachers had NO CHOICE but to do this. They have sick days given to them for their employment. I would say their health and wellbeing are being challenged by this bill. Its not about the 10% income they would be losing, but its about the ability to collectively bargain. There would be bad teachers with or without unions. Thats not it either. So calm down.
Daniel Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 8:54 PM
Dont fool yourself, its about the money. But regardless, sick days are only allowed if you are actually sick. Thats why you need a doctors note. The teachers chose to go to this rally instead of work. For that we ought to can em all. These people are as whiny as more than half the teachers out there when it comes to unions.
Ed Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 9:35 PM
No the teachers had another choice and that is to go do what they say they are there for Teach. They sob on TV that it’s not for them but for the kids. Really? They smoking from the same crack bowl Mike below is. Get a grip Daniel and open your eyes and mind. These people are definitely in it for themselves they could give a crap about the kids.
tom Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:53 PM
They had all kinds of time to debate this. Walker ran on this during his campaign so they had since November to deal with this.
It is no different than the $1 billion tax bill that the Democrats rammend through in 24 hours, but now it is so different when the shoe is on the other foot. The unions and democrats are hypocrites and they are fooling you into believing families will be hurt by losing collective bargaining. Stop believing the unions!!!!!
asdfasdf Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:07 PM
families will be hurt. i think it’s funny that when the republicans decide to cut spending on something. they only decide to cut spending on the organizations that would probably vote for the other side anyway. that’s what’s called a power play. this is twisted. and i don’t know a single teacher who feels apathetic towards teaching. it’s not the teachers fault our education in this country is dwindling, it’s the parents. if you wanted to leave it all up to the teachers, you would send your kids to a boarding school.
There is fraud in corporate america everyday taking place. Please open you eyes! I work for a company that has taken everything they can away from the employees who work in a very challenging industry. Yet the upper leadership’s compensation is 100′s of times higher than the staff who are the ones generating the revenue. No raises in 3 years but the expectations increase daily. Why do you all continue to work against your own interests? If you don’t make a couple of million a year you shouldn’t believe all the stuff you get fed on FOX, etc. I say do what you have to do union workers of WI! You owe to yourself and everyother working class citizen of this corporate corrupt USA!
There was a time when alot of employment in this country was 14 hour days, six and a half day work weeks, no safety concerns, no paid leave, etc. You know what changed all that? Unions. If you have a forty hour week, weekends off, and an occasional vacation…shut up. The threat of unionization is the only reason why. Union members literally went to war against corrupt corporate bosses, and fought and died in the early 1900′s so that you can’t be literally worked to death by your job.
Time was, that people wanted to raise the standards at their own job, instead of lower them for someone else.
Richard Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 8:31 PM
“There was a time when alot of employment in this country was 14 hour days, six and a half day work weeks, no safety concerns, no paid leave, etc. You know what changed all that? Unions.”
No, not unions: Production. If it were strictly a matter of unions, why not unionize the workers of, say, Zimbabwe? By the “union” reasoning, that ought to give them a standard of living comparable to ours.
The hard, brutal truth of the matter is that productive men must first create wealth in order that some thugs can later come along, seize, and redistribute it to those who did not produce it. This redistribution racket has gone on so long that we are now just about out of booty for these brigands to seize. The streets of Madison are just a foretaste of what is to come across America as people realize that the gravy train has reached the end of the line.
And finally, no, I’m not going to shut up.
Brian Reply:
February 23rd, 2011 at 4:10 AM
It was not unions Mike, for better or worse it was the government. Have you ever heard of OSHA, labor laws and minimum wage. These things were created by the government not by the unions. I do not know how you can still support a union when all the things they claim to do are already handled by the government. I can barely stand the decisions made by the government, why in the world would I want another entity like a union making decisions for me also? Unions are destroying our workplace in so many ways yet so many people blindly follow them. It’s as if you all are lemmings.
Andrea Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 8:42 PM
…..The teachers have a forty hour work week, weekends off, and an occasional vacation. Therefore according to you they should shut up. That’s all anyone complaining about them wants them to do.
Mike Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:35 AM
Don.t forget summers off Teachers in Wisconsin average 3.5 workdays/week over the 52 week year
Daniel Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 8:48 PM
Those unions are much different than unions today. Today unions are corrupt and in some ways akin to organized crime. Not to mention union members are generally whiny pathetic and self serving.
As far as raising the standard of my own job and lowering someone elses, get over yourself. I could care less what a private corporation does. Come to think of it, those big corporations are mostly unionized but unionites think they are evil. Interesting
What we do care about are government jobs. They are funded by the tax payers so tax payers have a voice. If we want to change the pay rate, any financial compensation, or the rules for our employees, we have that right. If you dont want to follow the rules laid down, you should be fired on the spot. Thats the way the real world works
Ed Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 9:28 PM
You are correct there was a time but, it has come and gone. You tell me what union has ever created a job. They bargain for higher wages and cadilac pension plans at the expense of the lower ranking union members. These are government jobs we are talking about not private sector. If the unions are such a good deal why do they require all the teachers pay union dues even if they don’t want to? There are many that don’t want to pay the dues and would rahter have that money in their own pockets, kind of like a raise for them wouldn’t you say Mike. Do you honestly think unions aren’t corrupt? These people striking in Wisconsin are dishonest by taking sick notes when they aren’t sick. Wasn’t it negotiated in their contract that they aren’t suppose to partake in such rallies especiaally with fraudulent sick notes from frauduilaent doctors. I believe the contract calls for termination under these circumstances. Doesn’t the union abide by it’s own agreements? Obviously not. Go out by a tree and smoke some more crack with your GM union buddies Mike maybe things will become more clear for you then.
sam Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 10:11 PM
Yes unions have accomplished what they set out to do. What do they need to continue to fight for? except more money. The fact is our 8 hour workday is codified by law, and we have OSHA and other workplace safety regulatory agencies in place by law. Unions only represent 12% of national population, I don’t think we will go back to the days of “the Jungle” without unions.
Fast Eddie Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 11:37 PM
So what you are really saying is the ends justify the means.
BTW – it’s 2011, not 1920. I appreciate the work unions did almost 100 years ago but it doesn’t excuse the Doctor’s actions.
Mike Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:32 AM
Time was we weren’t FORCED TO PAY someone for lying and committing fraud to protest for us to give them more
Time was people didn’t demand that others raise their standard of living by lowering ours
So you shut up you sanctimonious ass oh here’s fact for you I’ll bet you’ll hate it
In Wisconsin, private sector workers make 74% of their state-level public sector counterparts. This is the 48 th worst pay differential in the nation and clearly shows that the public sector employee unions aren’t hurting for better pay or benefits.
tom Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Sure Mike, why don’t you prove where you got those numbers from. I’m sure some liberal/progressive institute.
OnlyAnIdiot Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:36 PM
Only an idiot would literally work themselves to death. Your postulate is a straw argument. Name one person in the history of America who has worked themselves to death. Unions are not nearly as responsible for working conditions as you claim. The bulk of changes are due to companies seeking competent and reliable workers, not the result of worker’s holding the company hostage. The only things union produce are higher costs and entitlements (to themselves). I benefit zero buying a Chevrolet yet save thousands buying a Toyota, plus I get a better quality vehicle. Toyota used to share a fragment of the automotive industry, now they are the Number ! manufacturer globally. Unions did that. Why do government workers need unions? The government works people to death?
Steve Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:33 PM
Why do you think your views are the only matter ? Read history Union people preyed on immigrants coming off the boats. They threatened people and beat them.
Why should a toll taker make 75 k a year and only pay for 5% of their health care ?
A cashier at a grocery store has a tougher job and they make minimum wage with no benefits !
Why do union people think that they have more of a right to work than non union people?
We can thank the greedy public and private unions for driving the manufacturing jobs out of this country!
Why do the unions feel that they are still entitled to outrageous salaries, benefits and pensions when their is no money to pay for it ?
You have no problem taking more of my money to fund your outrageous benefits.
The private has had to pay more for health care with no raises for over a decade. You all need to be put on a 401k plan like the rest of us.
Why do you get more than a soldier fighting in Iraq ?
Why cannot soldiers unionize ? because it is a conflict of interest, they are here to SERVE their country.
Bottom line Unions are forcing me to lower my standards by taking my hard earned money.
Unions are afraid of competition from non union people !
If you are good at your job you do not need a union !
James McNaughton Reply:
February 23rd, 2011 at 1:15 PM
No. What changed working conditions was the continuous increase in worker productivity — caused by Capitalism — which allowed people to work less and simultaneously create more wealth. You always had the option (unless you were a slave) to work less, with the associated decrease in your standard of living. Keep in mind those work hours were not the invention of the industrial revolution, but were rather the historical precedent of pre-industrial agricultural civilization; because that’s what it took to keep people alive.
If it wasn’t for the increase in worker productivity, the unions could have bullied employers into paying more wages for less work, but the result would have been bankruptcy and no more employer to bully.
Rob Reply:
February 23rd, 2011 at 3:29 PM
Mike, you’re ignoring the fact that these people are committing fraud! They’re claiming they have an illness that they don’t have, and filing paperwork to get paid for that time off. While I have no proof, I’d be willing to bet that the unions brought these fraudulent doctors in.
The doctors’ actions are a breach of professionalism and ethics that should be addressed. I don’t know if their licenses can be revoked, but their employers and their specialty boards should be informed of this for whatever action they deem appropriate. Thirty years ago polls ranked physicians as some of the most trustworthy members of society. We have fallen very far.
The teachers that called-in sick need to be identified and sued for fraud (and fired). By lying they will collect sick pay for basically going on strike–illegal, immoral, unethical and a damned poor example for their students.
Thanks for posting these videos.
Shirley Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:52 AM
Has anyone told those teachers that what they are doing is called CHEATING! If their students cheated on an exam, they would receive a zero! They should stop whining and be glad they have a job, since there are many people in this country that don’t.
At one time unions were great, but they have all gone downhill. Maybe the teachers should take a look at who is benefiting the most. I don’t think it is them.
The fact that these alleged doctors were at the protest writing medically questionable “sick notes” under less than ethical and moral circumstances, and “social responsibility” be damned, is, by now, almost common knowledge. The Governor and the school district would have to be entirely clueless to not know that some not-so-sick teachers were, indeed, protesting rather than fulfilling their employment contracts.
So, any “sick notes” that teachers present should be viewed with extreme suspicion.
Fire the lot of them. If they didn’t show up for work, fire them. Sure, some teachers that were legitimately sick may get fired, but considering the chaos that these alleged doctors threw into the mix via their “social responsibility”, let it rest on their heads.
I so appreciate this video. I cannot tell you how “sick” it makes me feel to see this “fraud” taking place. These people, if in the private sector of business would be fired for this. I think that these people should be fired as well. They will not though for the bully tactics of the unions here in WI have gone on unchallenged for over 40 years. I am a hard working American Businessman who is sick and tired, and disgusted by the liberal progressive loud mouthed minority.
I have no problem saying that what is happening in WI is union busting, and it needs to be done. It is breaking the chain which has imprisoned WI for too long. They had been trying to “negotiate” with the union for 18 months before Scott Walker became Gov. They tried, with Doyle’s support to ram rod contracts filled with sweet deals before Gov. Walker got in office. They knew that the American Voters here in WI voted to shut them down and shut the unions up.
I am so tired of all that is going on, how the liberal media, progressive propoganda talking heads like Ed Shultz and a local “Hanio Jane” Sly on the radio have sought to rewrite history, and misrepresent the facts. I am so mad that I may run for office, if I can figure out how to do so. Not to be a politican, but to be a true American who is fed up with these cancerous ignorant people, who are bringing America down.
James A. Hill
tom Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:48 PM
I will vote for you James
Here is my proposal to solve the ripoff being thrust on the American Taxpayor. An independent panel analyzes the average pay and benefits for private sector work for each employment type. From that report, no federal ,state, county or city employee is allowed to recieve pay or benefits more than 100% of that private sector average. Its the only fair way. You want the truth? Here it is…These government employees got those benefits in the past , by politicians offering these outrages benefits and recieving votes in return. Just look at when these benefits were awarded and the politician put into office for his payoff.
Thank you for filming this fraud. If the teachers and state employees were paid for sick days when they were protesting, and then submitted fraudelent documentation, them and the doctors need to be prosecuted for fraud against the taxpayor. We know these doctors names, every employee that submits a note from one of these doctors needs to be tracked down and the doctor too.
Amy Reply:
February 23rd, 2011 at 9:17 AM
I am a taxpayer as well, a former military police soldier. I refuse to press charges.
A bunch of cry-baby union members, what else is new? I’m from the midwest and I’ve seen first-hand how damaging unions really are! In the private secor, unions send jobs overseas because low-skilled people get paid many times what they are really worth. In the case, of the public sector, the taxpayers are trapped into paying much more than the public sector employee is worth. In fact, the unions keep bad teachers from being fired. No wonder our education system is so bad! I’m beginning to see the real value of homeschooling and private schools, the teachers actually have to do a good job! And another thing, whats the deal with all of these communists and socialists at these protests? They ought to throw their butts in jail! I can’t believe they are letting them smoke pot and do drugs in the capital building!
I hope that there will be a serious investigation into this, and that these doctors will lose their licenses to practice medicine. Were they handing fake medical documents out to Tea Party members, the members would be fired for turning them in and the doctors would lose their medical licenses.
[...] It is against Wisconsin law for public service employees, such as teachers, fire and police, to stage any kind of strike. So they get a note from a conspiring doctor, to claim that they are sick, which excuses them from work if they really are sick. The doctors know that the teacher is not sick, so he conspires with the teacher to perpetrate a lie. Such a lie commits fraud. Teachers get paid sick pay and take sick leave, if they are sick. To conspire with a doctor to fake an illness to enable another action, commits fraud. Therefore, despite the doctor’s note, the teachers still break the law, and doctors commit conspiracy with the teachers to commit that crime. See more about the fake doctors’ notes at: http://maciverinstitute.com/2011/02/fake-doctors-notes-being-handed-out-at-wisconsin-gov-union-rally... [...]
[...] Wisconsin Democrats, Unions & Doctors Fake Out the United States 21 02 2011 In Madison over the last several days~ So Wisconsin Democrats legislators will fake a walkout and run away to another state. Proof The Wisconsin Unions grew fake member numbers. Proof The Wisconsin Doctors issued fake sick excuses at will to anyone. Proof [...]
A survey was conducted February 4-8 by Clarus Research Group among 1,001 registered voters nationwide. NOTE – This was BEFORE Wisconsin blew up. It asked just one question about unions, which according to a Clarus spokesman was paid for by the company and “not done for any client, political group or outside interest.” The company’s clients include corporations and non-profit advocacy groups.
QUESTION…
Do you think government employees should be represented by labor unions that bargain for higher pay, benefits and pensions, or do you think government employees should not be represented by labor unions?
RESULT:
Should 29%
Should not 64%
So Clarus finds greater than two to one opposition to the government employee unions, and that was BEFORE Wisconsin blew up.
I wonder where those numbers are today?
barbara Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 2:02 PM
I opted not to join the union and I am a gvmt worker. Maybe Fed employees get the chance to say ‘no’
Bob Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 3:25 PM
I was in touch today with a friend of mine in Madison, WI. He works for the private sector. He told me everyone he talks to is fed up with the effete snobbery of these spoiled union members and their sick synchophants. He wants them all fired. So do I.
Out with criminal-based socialism.